Canis Domesticus

Turn 9, Senate Phase, First War Vote

Turn 9 Senate Phase, Second War Vote due 4/23, Saturday

Senate Phase

Rome Consul Flamininus announcement:

There is still one more War to be settled. The Jugurthines dare to still challenge our Rule. I propose to send our Regular Legions to train them into Veterans against these rabble, with support from the Navy. Consul Terentius will have 14 Regular Legions with the complete 17 Ship Fleet to support them.

Voting Order will be the same as before...

FC Terentius is heard to mutter, "Why is the RC always a military idiot?"

FC Terentius rises and speaks: "I request our esteemed Rome Consul withdraw this proposal as sending all 17 fleets is patently ridiculous. Why risk more fleets than necessary to a Disaster result? I will consult with my legates and report to the Senate shortly as to what the optimum force mix should be."

Rome Consul Flamininus jumps up:


Idiot?! A show of Force is needed to show the rest of the Neutral Countries that to rise up against Rome is a death wish and will be meet with overwhelming Authority! I will not withdraw my Proposal! If you won't lead the Legions & Ships against The Jugurthine, I will! Either step up or step down!

Terentius addresses the Senate.

"Conscript Fathers!

"Let me explain the situation so that even an RC can understand. The RC wants to send 14 Fleets to do the job of the two I want to send. In the event of a Disaster (6.94%) the RC's plan would lose 7 fleets, mine 1. In the event of a Standoff, the RC's plan would lose 4 fleets, mine 1.

"So riddle me this, why put so many fleets at risk of a D/S (16.67%) when we don't need to?"

Terentius readdresses the Senate.

'It was previously reported in these chambers that 20 CF and 2 fleets would be necessary to gain the maximum odds of victory (83.33%)." Again, the RC's proposal fails to allocate sufficient strength to the land forces while putting excess fleets in danger unnecessarily."

"For these reasons you must vote Nay on the proposal.

Voting Order:

Arborophilia: 5 votes abstain

CORONUS: 4 votes against

100%Loyalus: 10 votes against

Finlandia: 1 vote in favor and 11 votes against

Caelestis Genus: 16 votes in favor

The motion fails with 20 votes in favor to 25 against, with 5 abstentions.

Rome Consul Flamininus announcement:

What I hear from Field Coward Terentius is nothing but excuses. I will not order the other Veterans to be lead by a Coward. I feel sorry for the Regular Legions who have to follow Terentius but I will pray to Mars to watch over them. If Terentius wants more Legions, then he can have his IV Veteran Legion to add to the 14 Regular Legions and I will bend to the will of the Senate to send only 3 Ships to support them. This is my last Proposal on this matter. Either Senator Terentius accepts his duty to lead the Legions against the Jugurthines or we will elect another one who will.

Voting Order will be the same as before...

Factions

Player Ward Narhi
Faction Name Finlandia
Votes 6 (12)
Cards 4

Senators

#

Name

Influence

Military

Oratory

Loyalty

Popularity

Knights

Treasury

Office

Prior Consul?

Concessions

Notes

19A L. Aemilius Paulus Macedonicus 24 5 4 8 3 2 0 Pontifex Maximus Y Tax Farmer 6, Mining
I Legion loyalty, Nullifies Macedonian War Disaster/Standoff

Player Bill Scharf
Faction Name Arborophilia
Votes 5
Cards 4

Senators

#

Name

Influence

Military

Oratory

Loyalty

Popularity

Knights

Treasury

Office

Prior Consul?

Concessions

Notes

1 Cornelius 19 4 3 9 6 1 6 Governor of Illyricum Y
III Legion Loyalty
4 Julius 19 4 3 9 5 2 6 Censor Y Tax Farmer 1
XIV Legion Loyalty
13 Flaminius 15 4 2 6 7 2 3 Governor of Corsica-Sardinia Y Tax Farmer 3
II Legion Loyalty

Player Paul Bolduc
Faction Name Coronus
Votes 4
Cards 1

Senators

#

Name

Influence

Military

Oratory

Loyalty

Popularity

Knights

Treasury

Office

Prior Consul?

Concessions

Notes

3 Valerius 8 1 2 10 0 2 0 Governor of Narbonese Gauls N
15 Sulpicius 15 3 2 8 7 1 10 Priesthood, Governor of Further Spain Y Egyptian Grain Concession
VII Legion Loyalty
20 Terentius 14 2 1 6 3 2 7 Field Consul Y IV Legion Loyalty
17 Plautius 2 2 1 6 0 0 0

Player Michael Longdin
Faction Name 100%Loyalus
Votes 9 (10)
Cards 4

Senators

#

Name

Influence

Military

Oratory

Loyalty

Popularity

Knights

Treasury

Office

Prior Consul?

Concessions

Notes

9 Aurelius 13 2 3 7 0 3 7 Governor of Cisalpine Gaul Y Tax Farmer 4
16 Calpurnius 18 1 2 9 0 7 28 Priesthood Y Ship Building

Player Jerry Roalstad
Faction Name Caelestis Genus
Votes 18 (19)
Cards 3

Senators

#

Name

Influence

Military

Oratory

Loyalty

Popularity

Knights

Treasury

Office

Prior Consul?

Concessions

Notes

8 Furius 16 3 3 8 2 4 2 Priesthood Y XXI Legion Loyalty
10 Junius 13 1 2 8 5 1 0 Governor of Sicily Y Harbor Fees XX Legion Loyalty
18 T. Quinctius Flamininus 18 5 4 7 5 4 2 Rome Consul Y Tax Farmer 2 Nullifies Macedonian War Disaster/Standoff, VI Legion Loyalty

Note: Senators in bold are Faction Leaders. Senators in italics are not in Rome.

Rome

Treasury 222
Unrest Level 3

Active Forces

Veteran Legions I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, XIV, XX, XXI, XXIV
Legions VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XXII, XXIII, XXV
Fleets I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII

Land Bills

Type I 0
Type II 0
Type III 0

Provinces

Province

Governor

Term

Developed?

Strength

Local Forces

Max Forces

Garrison Legions

Personal Income

State Income

Local Taxes

Sardinia-Corsica Flaminius 2 Y 1/0 0/5 1/5 None dr - 1 -dr + 1 10
Sicily Junius 3 Y 2/0 10/5 10/5 None dr + 4 dr + 2 40
Nearer Spain Sempronius 3 N 1/0 4/0 5/0 None dr - 2 -dr + 1 10
Further Spain Sulpicius 3 Y 4/0 10/0 10/0 None dr +1 dr - 1 20
Cisalpine Gaul Aurelius 3 Y 2/0 6/0 10/0 None dr + 3 DR - 1 20
Illyricum Cornelius 1 Y 4/0 2/0 10/0 None dr dr 15
Narbonese Gaul Valerius 2 Y 2/0 2/0 10/0 None dr + 1 dr + 1 20

Term numbers in bold indicate that graft has been taken. Underlined Province names are Border provinces.

Forum

General Items:

Natural Disaster

Epidemic

Evil Omens

Laws:

Tradition Erodes

Inactive Wars

Name

Strength

Disaster

Standoff

Spoils

Provinces Created

Side Effects

Active Wars

Name

Strength

Disaster

Standoff

Spoils

Provinces Created

Side Effects

Unprosecuted Wars

Name

Strength

Disaster

Standoff

Spoils

Provinces Created

Side Effects

Jugurthine 8/2 14 13 25 None None

Curia

Enemy Leaders

Repopulating Rome

Destroyed Concessions

Hannibal, Viriathus (+5, Spanish Revolts) 6, 7, 14, 2, 5, 11 Sicilian Grain, Armaments

Sempronius (#25, Influence 3, Military 1, Oratory 3, Loyalty 6, 43 talents)

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